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March 22nd, 2011

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12:44 pm
This just washed up on my shores.

If anyone can actually tell me what that's all about, I'd appreciate it. It reads like a bot or a 14 year old kid putting words together in a pastiche of pseudo-intellectualism.

One of my favorite examples:
"The million dollar question: Is gender a social construct? My final answer: Not entirely."

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Date:March 22nd, 2011 11:14 pm (UTC)
I read the first few lines of that and I started laughing. I really can't get any further because that would be taking it seriously. Pseudo-intellectual indeed.
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Date:March 24th, 2011 03:19 am (UTC)
Short version: You don't want to get any of this on you.

Longer version:

The idea of what's man-ish or woman-ish isn't rigorously defined anywhere. There are biological differences, which are obvious, and statistical tendencies, which vary, and then there's things like 'boys are blue and girls are pink' which has no obvious reason for remaining a Thing other than inertia. Statistically, on a world scale, it's true that women tend to wear their hair longer than men, and but there's also dudes like us running around. A bunch of people split the social roles (pink, dresses, long hair, cries a lot) off from hardware (vagina) and call it gender rather than sex.

People who are not comfortable with the assumptions society-at-large society makes about them often get grumpy about this. A good slice of people (many of whom are on the internet) have bonded over being uncomfortable with assumptions society-at-large makes about them in ways they think are related to gender, and formed communities around this. These communities, like tons of others, have experienced some pretty serious commisseration spiral action and sometimes go on at length about gender theory in a way that's more or less analogous to us going on about gamer minutiae - it's stupid shit that no one else cares about but can seem very important when you spend a lot of hours per week living your life through it.

I've been grumpy about the assumptions society-at-large makes about me for years, I just don't have a convenient hook like "gender" to hang them on, and I generally *do* have the latitude to act however I want and still do things like have a job and not get beaten up on the street.

So it's a movement I have mixed sympathy for, except when they get hypocritical and act like *they* have the only moral authority, and then I can't be fucked to deal with them either.

...did any of that help?
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Date:March 24th, 2011 06:38 am (UTC)
That didn't really answer my question of "What the hell is farmpunk?" But it sounds like you might have enjoyed that page for what it was.

I am unfortunately well acquainted with the difference between sex and gender.

Frankly, I think we should settle on "Do you want to do someone with guy parts, girl parts, or are you not picky?"

Strangely, that point of view usually upsets people who want me to care that they're a man born into a woman's body.
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Date:March 24th, 2011 08:03 am (UTC)
I dodged the farmpunk issues, because the post you quoted and the post beneath it were both random gender screeds, and also because I'm really not prepared to conjecture what the fuck that guy is on about.

I think that "ok, but are you interested in having someone stick their man-body into your woman-body" loses some of the romance. But maybe I should try it some time.

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