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September 15th, 2008

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05:15 pm - Thing of the day I hate
The assertion that polygamous relationships are "better" than monogamous ones with the implications that monogamous relationships involve one or more of the incomplete following set: ownership of someone, sexism, a high rate of failure.

It's extremely difficult to calculate any sort of expected value. It is also difficult to speculate effectively on the outcome if a different factor had been present. Statistics are fraught with difficulties, up to and including the incomplete following set: cultural differences (secular and clerical), incomplete studies, incompatible definitions, ineffective reporting.

I *hate* elitist poly folk.

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Date:September 16th, 2008 09:25 am (UTC)

Elitist folk are tedious to be around, as a general thing, quite independent of the topic.

The notion of polygamous relationships is interesting to me; it is a feature, as you know, of a number of science fiction stories such as those by Robert Heinlein. Those in particular are polygamous/polyandrous committed relationships -- typically called "group marriages" or "line marriages" -- and as families providing continuous care and economic support for children (and the family itself) they would be very good.

Good examples are "Time Enough for Love" and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" -- both of which I think you've read.

My perception is that these arrangements would be difficult for most people to put into practice, though, humans wired they way we are. Perhaps in this manner, too, culture will overcome instinct eventually.

I know that some people now can handle such a situation in a mature and positive fashion -- and many others can't even seem to hack a comparatively mundane marriage.

The metrics that would make it work are ... as you said, not easy to quantify.

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Date:September 17th, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC)
The Heinlein examples are mostly semi-closed sets, which is different from how most people I know practice polyamory.
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Date:September 17th, 2008 11:31 pm (UTC)
Agreed -- they're generally described as marriages.

Still, there are early glimpses of other arrangements, such as the very open marriage practiced by Lazarus's parents. That becomes the focus of later works such as "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls".

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