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March 27th, 2011


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11:14 pm
Why I hate San Francisco:

No toys in happy meals!

They hate corporations, but they love twitter!

The Giants. You even have to hear that they won the world series AT A HOCKEY GAME.

Commitments to "organic" and "sustainable" "food" -- we've proven that organic produce isn't any tastier, people!

Terrible roads -- because they keep motorists off the roads!

A 25% (and rising!) parking tax. Why are they charging people who drive in? To pay for their buses. That's, like, the definition of "No taxation without representation".

You can't even take BART to see a concert or go clubbing!

Don't bother with MUNI either!

Smart meters -- an environmental technology are being fought because they emit non-ionizing RF. They probably think cell phones cause cancer too.

They only hire San Franciscans

EDIT: This list was aborted, thanks to a weekend visiting friends and this:


I intend to add more to it later. This is just what I could find in about 20 minutes of googling.

EDIT part 2: And holy crap, all the goddamned Priuses. You see them all over the place in SF. You even see ones with wind generators on top.

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From:lishd
Date:March 28th, 2011 07:32 am (UTC)
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i've often found organic produce to be noticeably tastier. blind tests & all. it's not 100% of the time, but it's a good 75%.
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From:testing4l
Date:March 28th, 2011 07:39 am (UTC)
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That test can be setup a number of different ways.

The most telling studies -- that is, the ones that convinced me that organic produce is not necessarily better -- are situations in which dishes intended for a large number (> 30, if memory serves) of servings were created using one or the other. That helps to remove a lot of the variance between farms of origin and variance between batches.
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From:lishd
Date:March 28th, 2011 07:41 am (UTC)
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i'm not saying everyone will notice the difference. plenty of people burnt their tastebuds out long ago. not everyone will pay $60 for a meal, either. i'm telling you my experience.
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From:testing4l
Date:March 28th, 2011 07:56 am (UTC)
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The experience of various people is often unscientific. It often contains pretty difficult problems to solve like the placebo effect.

For that reason, I accept the results of your single-blind testing, but with an extremely small weight compared to the double-blind studies which I am referring to.
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From:lishd
Date:March 28th, 2011 07:57 am (UTC)
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that's cool; all i know is i'll totally pay more for these delicious fruits & vegetables, & i'll take none of your shit about doing so. :)
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From:testing4l
Date:March 28th, 2011 08:54 am (UTC)
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There are those who believe their tastebuds are worth >$20 million. Wine tasters, in particular.

One particular study showed that wine tasters are subject to surprising errors.

I surmise that you are probably the exact same way. If you were to agree that the studies I mention are correct, then it's really the expectation of tasting organic food which makes it better.

If that were true, then it would suggest that equally healthy, non-organic produce should taste just as good. The placebo effect should then make them taste equally as good.

And best of all -- you'd spend a lot less on groceries.
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From:lishd
Date:March 28th, 2011 01:32 pm (UTC)
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uh, except i judged organic versus nonorganic correctly in my blind test each time. so, no.
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From:testing4l
Date:March 28th, 2011 04:24 pm (UTC)
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You said previously that "it's not 100% of the time, but it's a good 75%." I assumed that to mean that you correctly identified organic vs. non-organic 3 out of 4 times.

Since there's only one of you, then the test was necessarily a single-blind in which the experimenter knew which was which. When you guessed, you may have been influenced by subtle cues.

There's are very good reasons why single-blind testing is considered ineffective in psychological and sociological studies. Those very good reasons apply to your testing.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. If I knew more about your methodology, then I suspect that I could poke more holes in it.

Out of curiosity, do you also taste the difference between organic and pesticide-free food?
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From:lishd
Date:March 28th, 2011 04:29 pm (UTC)
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oh, nope, i meant sometimes there isn't a flavor difference. you can have lousy organics just as easily as good non-organics. i didn't misidentify any, but called "evens" on about 25%.

you go ahead & believe what you will. i don't really care about convincing you on what i know.

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